Slippery slope deception & conflation of incest with buggery’s decriminalization

Slippery slope deception & conflation of incest with buggery’s decriminalization

The recent ruling in Belize by the Supreme Court on the striking down adults same gender sex and opposite gender sex as well seems to have sent some persons into frenzy on the issue as the fear mongering is on in earnest. The believes and misnomers that gay marriage is next when marriage between a man and a woman as defined in the charter of rights is as clear as crystal; such a meaning is so deeply entrenched that it would take forever almost to have removed providing some good well thinking members of parliament decide to take it on. Presently no parliamentarians wants to come close to addressing the present thrust for amending the articles 76, 77 & 79 concerning buggery or the abominable crime under the Sexual Offences Bills.

The latest slippery slope that some persons egregiously use to include religious fanatics while giving the church on a whole a bad name and image is that if consenting adults are allowed to engage in private in anal penetration then what is to stop incestuous relations to occur so long there is consent, some have gone even further such as attorneys Bert Samuels and Shirley Richards of Lawyers’ Christian Fellowship fame that persons may even advocate to be married to animals despite the fact the said ‘buggery law’ also speaks to beastiality, when no such calls have been made to amend that section. According to them as has happened in Europe whilst not able to provide any proof simply make absolutes pronouncements albeit they are attorneys and ought to know better. It is not surprising as other colleagues such as Dr Wayne West on his feverish campaign on seeing HIV is a gay disease ploy has also deceptively (in the name of piety) claimed all other anal acts will be free and open for use for said consenting adults. He has grouped for example scatting, fisting and felching in his public advocacy and also in church presentations over and over again. Obviously it is exaggeration for effect, magnify the problem so that it sounds convincing. Now that the doors are closing the aforementioned referendum on buggery by then opposition leader now prime minister is now the obvious target by antigay voices in a bid to play on the national sentiments if not ignorance.

Phillipa Davies a colleague of West also tried it recently on transgenderism and maybe thought it would have gone unnoticed on the radio show she hosts, since my exposure of the unsubstantiated comments she made on Dr Alfred ‘s work she has hardly appeared on the show but recently turned up in a almost flopped protest outside the US embassy on the rainbow lighting motif they had done some days before and the rainbow flag support they showed immediately following the Florida shooting incident of a gay nightclub. Miss Davies has been groomed well it seems not to mention Helen Coley Nicholson president of the Lawyers’ Christian Fellowship who sounds more like someone is pressing her buttons or coaching her on what to say publicly; namely her predecessor Shirley Richards. This is the same woman who some years ago asked that lesbians be also criminalised as gay men in terms of the sexual offences bill although she knows full well (or ought to) as an attorney that that may not be possible as what would the women be so engaged in that would warrant such a call, yet Richards and company are all but silent on other societal atrocities; that was evidenced by a radio interview on BEST 100FM hosted by Rastafarian attorney Miguel Lorne who while haling the aforementioned US Embassy protest mentioned the Mario Deane matter where he effectively said the protests over the two year period saw very little participation of the clergy or churches, he encouraged her to join in on other matters to which Mrs Richards barely gave an affirmative response and quickly went back to the anti gay agenda she was on the radio about.

There seems to be a well orchestrated campaign to target talkshows with this latest strategy to conflate purposely incest with consenting adults sexual activity. Another discussion on LOVE 101FM’s Morning Watch Bert Samuels used the same strategy while claiming gay marriage is next, despite he explained that marriage as defined now is between a man and a woman and is deeply entrenched he claimed if someone wants to marry their dog they can challenge the act while chastising the originators of the ‘buggery law’ of changing morality. He also suggested they were forcing former colonies to accept the ‘new morality’ of which he is greatly opposed. He mentioned the savings law clause briefly in a supposed bid to give the background but persisted that colonies are being pressured or moral imperialism:

“They want to change a law that they imposed on us originally, they gave it to us.” He said among other things.

Even when it is not as if the entire buggery law will go but instead will be very clearly defined as to privacy and consent. Gary Harriot of the Jamaica Umbrella Group of Churches, JUG who also sided with Mr Samuels, the issue of laws and morals came up as well as well as separation of church and state. Samuels also raised the issue of a twenty year old woman who is attracted to her father as an example; he claimed that they are adults and consenting so he asked:

“Where do we draw the line?”

Yet at no point in the near thirty minute discussion no mention was made there and even elsewhere where the matter has been raised incest laws have been brought up. Samuels played on fears that other rights in the charter of rights such as freedom of expression would collide with marriage rights and so on. What is most interesting on all of this is that regarding the savings law clause unlike Belize that amended their ‘buggery law’ some five years after their independence to describe the crime as ‘unnatural acts’ or ‘crime against nature’ Jamaica has left the legislation as we inherited same in 1962. Belize also has a protection of discrimination due to sexual orientation in their constitution but Jamaica does not, if I recall that protection was removed during the charter of rights draft debate in a cleverly orchestrated word meaning linguistic distraction as to the meaning of ‘sex’ as it would have left open a door to something else then.

Incest laws

The attempt to try to marry or suggest a slippery slope for every other conceivable ills and sexual aspersion will come flying through the door if and when the courts rule similarly locally as our UNIBAM success in Belize is simply dishonesty. To think this is being done in the name of God; what misrepresentation. As far as my untrained understanding of incest is concerned even if there is consent with blood relatives engaging in sexual activity the incest legislation which also is included in the sexual offences bill which contain the ‘buggery law’ is clear that it is illegal. To twin such with opposite sex partners is deceptive and clearly shows a kind of desperation by anti gay voices as their cause slowly shrinks before their eyes. Sadly again this is being done in the name of God which makes the hardened positions more tenuous, no wonder why so many LGBT persons claim secularism or aetheism just to strengthen their own hand. Incest is not just about the religious component of it linked to Leviticus but also the biological considerations.

It is well known as common knowledge that the likelihood of a child as a product of an incestuous liaison can lead to birth issues if not a disabled or handicapped offspring as the bloodline is too close causing such outcomes. Probably the only incestuous issue between men is that of cousins or brothers (if so extreme) or Uncle and nephew no children would be the outcome after unprotected sex and ejaculation to create any pregnancy. Even so a buggery charge if provable would stand more so than incest in such a matter. I am not aware of any such case where two adult consenting men have been charged and successfully prosecuted for incest after being charged. Definitely cases involving an older perpetrator and a minor who are related incest are included alongside the other relevant charges so applied.

The 2009 Sexual Offences Act under ‘Incest’ is clear as it states:

Incest

7.--(1) The offence of incest is committed by a male person Incest who willingly has sexual intercourse with another person knowing that the other person is his grandmother, mother, sister, daughter, aunt, niece or granddaughter.

(2) The offence of incest is committed by a female person who willingly has sexual intercourse with another person knowing that the other person is her grandfather, father, brother, son, uncle, nephew or grandson.

(3) For the purposes of subsection (1) or (2), the relationship between the person charged with an offence under any of those subsections and the person against whom the offence is alleged to have been committed includes a relationship determined by the reference to the whole blood or half blood, as the case may be.

(4) A person who commits the offence of incest is liable on conviction in a Circuit Court to imprisonment for life.
Not much change has come to light regarding incest outside of a sex offenders’ registry since despite reviews and amendments over the years.

Touching gay marriage versus civil unions and affording rights to same gender couples Bert Samuels’ resistance was clear:

“Well what is happening is that these groups, these partners want to have the same rights; in other words they want to have the right if their partner is in the hospital and cannot determine, they want to be able to determine whether you turn of life support or they want to be able to inherit property from their partners, that’s another route that has been elsewhere instituted, so that it is a recognition of these unions now being given legal status similar to marriage where people can inherit and pass property from one to the other.

You’re asking my personal view on that, I am old school, I am sorry.”

Reverend Harriot also mentioned the restorative therapy ambit supposedly claiming persons needed to be ‘cared for’ and that of ‘God’s design’ but he did not go down the road of exploring whether said design also include diverse orientation. The misconception of the mention of the word ‘diversity’ as seen by some churches as a bi-word for homosexual activists to invade the church and that it would be resisted strongly or reinterpreted to mean denominations and not a pro-LGBT agenda. Still want more fear mongering well there is the notion of Belize’s supposed destruction post the landmark decision.

We have a good way to go on just sensible discourse from persons who one would have expected better.

Peace & tolerance

H

remember this?:

GUILTY! Anti Gay Rev Al Miller to be sentenced Sept 15 for Perverting course of justice

The near two year old case of Reverend Al Miller, noted antigay voice allied to Jamaica CAUSE, Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society, JCHS and a thorn in the side of the second phase of the LGBT struggle since 1998 ended today in the St Andrew Parish court as the Reverend was found guilty for perverting the course of justice. Before announcing the guilty verdict parish court judge Miss Wolf Reece said that based on evidence presented in the trial she is convinced that Al Miller’s behaviour facilitated the desires of Christopher ‘Dudus’ Coke; the judge further commented that the evidence supports the finding of fact that Miller was seeking to evade law enforcement in Jamaica, Miller was arrested by the police on June 24. 2010 and after two days of questioning he was charged with harbouring a fugitive and perverting the course of justice.

then Clovis toon on the issue

The charges arose from the arrest of then fugitive Tivoli don Dudus Coke on June 22 of the same year, Coke was arrested on Mandela Highway after being found in a vehicle driven by Reverend Miller poorly disguised in a wig and a dress and glasses much to the laughter of the cops and soldiers who came upon the scene; subsequent photos which went public had sections of the public in stitches while others were not amused. To think this most vitriolic man of the cloth who demonises gays as liars and such and has gone as far as to describe transpersons as mad found it necessary to use the very female impersonation of Coke to evade the police under the guise of taking him to the United States embassy as Coke supposedly feared he would have been killed otherwise. Miller made his first court appearance in July of 2010. This is outside of another court matter involving his gun going missing and to date has not been found.

He pleaded not guilty to the charges of the present matter and maintained his innocence; in court police testified that Miller led them on a high speed chase before his vehicle with Dudus Coke aboard was forced to stop. Miller denied the claim, he said he was transporting Coke to turn himself in to the aforementioned US embassy. A no case submission from the defence was dismissed last year in June and within an hour of today’s proceedings he was told he was guilty and is to be sentenced on September 15.

Speaking outside the courtroom Miller said:

“We have to respect it and so we accept it; as her findings, sure ........ to put into perspective but we just really accept and leave it for that fo now. When it’s all finished we will see what is the next move.”

His attorney Jacqueline Samuels Brown says they will await the sentencing before deciding their next move.

“The case has been pending sometime and as you know today the parish judge for the parish of St Andrew gave her decision, she also gave the reason for her decision with of course respect, at this time our concentration is on however is the sentencing hearing which she has set for the fifteenth of September.”

His repeated use of his Word Power TV show over the years to scold homosexuals and promoting the strident antigay advocay by the aforementioned groups yet this is the outcome of his trial. Just goes to show not all who wear collars are clean it seems. His credibility has always bee n murky in my eyes and his appearance and the last two Rallies in Half Way disguised as addressing concerns when what it really was and still is a antigay imperative while preying on an already homo-negative climate nationally. No formal response has come from the groups he is aligned with nor his Fellowship Tabernacle church at the time of the preparation of this post.

Let us see where this goes upon sentencing and what if anything will be said by his colleagues even as the pending buggery constitutional matters had a wrench thrown in the mix recently has posted some days ago.

Some members of the public are already snickering suggesting Miller got his just deserts in this matter. In chapter 12 of the aforementioned Tivoli commission report released earlier this year Miller was named again despite he did not testify before it as he had the other case answering to in court.

The report read in part:

CoP Ellington Re: Bishop Blair and Rev. Miller

12.8. CoP Ellington testified that Mr. Golding asked him to speak with Bishop Blair and Rev. Al Miller concerning the possibility of Coke’s surrender prior to 24 May.

12.9. CoP Ellington said that Rev. Miller visited him sometime prior to 24 May and told him that he (Rev. Miller) had been in contact with Coke but Coke was reluctant to surrender to the custody of the police owing to concerns about his personal safety. CoP Ellington sent a message of plea and assurance via Rev. Miller to Coke as follows:

“I said, please tell Christopher Coke that I am appealing to him to surrender peacefully and I will ensure his safety whilst he is in custody of the State because that is my responsibility.” 

12.10. According to CoP Ellington, a few days later, Rev. Miller made the following report to the Commissioner:

“I saw the man and the man said to me if it was PNP in office, them woulda know how fi deal with this. Tell Bruce Golding fi find a way to deal with it. I am not going anywhere and, if they want me, they have to come fi me and they have to come good.”

Communications after 24 May

12.11. According to CoP Ellington, about 27 May, Rev. Miller attended on him and told him that he was instrumental in getting Coke’s brother and sister to surrender to the police pursuant to an appeal by the JCF for them to surrender. Rev. Miller apparently continued efforts to find Coke and have him surrender.

CoP Ellington told us – “I thanked him for his continued effort and support, wished him good luck and that was it.” Mr. Golding

12.12. Under cross-examination by Ms. Martin, Mr. Golding said that, after the hostilities subsided, he had a brief conversation with Rev. Miller who thought that he might be able to influence Coke to surrender. Mr. Golding’s recall of the meeting is this –

“He spoke with me and indicated that he had already commenced an initiative because he indicated that he was in contact with persons in the Police High Command and he was also in contact with officials in the U.S. Embassy. I welcomed that initiative because anything that could be done to secure Coke being taken into custody, the warrant having been issued there was too much turmoil created.

And there was still anxiety about the fact that he was still at large. I welcomed any initiative and I was quietly, guardedly optimistic that, based on the fact that he had been able to take in Coke’s sister and brother to the police, he might have been able to do similarly with Coke himself.”

Peace & tolerance

H

recall these:

Rev Al Miller’s late response to Dwayne Jones’ Murder & Respect heterosexuals demand 2013

Rev Al Miller on the Abnormality of Homosexuality & the invented gay marriage rights ploy

also see Anti gay pastor and restorative therapy advocate in trouble with the law again from sister blog GLBTQJA on blogger

Church Stands Resolute Against Buggery Backers says Al Miller ………… Love March Movement Lacks Moral Compass says LGBT voice

REVEREND AL MILLER’S OWN MORAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST & ANTI GAY CAMPAIGN and also see his shameful or shameless defiant retort that he would have helped Dudus again to escape the law: I'd Carry 'Dudus' Again - Miller and Rev Al Miller - the gay lobby is not asking for buggery decriminalization because of discrimination but to force homosexuality on the nation .......

Reverend Al Miller has no moral authority (yet again) to speak on flags & correctness

Suspected gay man booted from church ..... another case

Another case has come to hand which occurred in recent weeks, March 2016 to be precise of youth leader this time at a Pentecostal church in St Catherine. The matter also came up in an informal interfaith discussion as well where sexual orientation and the church were front and centre prior to the rainbow flag furor and since. In a previous post I had looked at a similar matter which occurred in May Pen Clarendon in 2015. The present matter as these matters often do has been building for some time in as far as profiling done by church elders with one particular church board member pursing the issue relentlessly it seemed. The impacted man was the subject of open and rumours, innuendo and speculation regarding his perceived sexual orientation; he was asked openly he said in a planning meeting for church activity after some allegations were supposedly made known to the person who asked the question; much to the shock of others in earshot of it.

also see: 

Church boots usher after alleged gay sex 2013

Booted from the Fellowship … said to be a homosexual ... Pastor's response is wanting 2011

He said he was shunned ever so slowly over time as the standoff was revealingly obvious; church members who would be very friendly and supportive of his leadership in the youth group are hardly speaking to him, and if they do it is very limited and formalised than before. Other rumours suggest that he was involved in some other action with another man who used to attend the church; the booted gay man is indeed same sex attracted and has borne the anti gay rhetoric in sermons, strong opposition to homosexuality in youth meetings especially in the height of the Professor Bain fiasco and subsequent antigay advocacy by groups such as Lovemarch, Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society, JCHS and Jamaica CAUSE. His church was also targeted in the campaign on a national church tour by one or more of the aforementioned groups. He participated as his obligations allowed but was also aware of his own sexuality and such. To have to hide who one is for so long must have been difficult; effectively living a lie in all places in the house of God and now to face this ostracism and out casting or othering.

The Sodom & Gomorrah story was often brought into the mix time and time again and he just got fed up of it; I have been evolving on this matter of Lot and his family’s exit from the city that was doomed for a long time, if we were to follow the teachings and warnings before. The real story to me is about the abuse of women as opposed to homosexuality as it conveniently used to justify the destruction of the city. The frame of reference tends to start at the angels visit to the city to clear it of qualified persons to the Lot engagement and instructions to exit the area through to the mistakenness of the soldiers of the visitors as spies when they were angels to the actual destruction to the turning into a pillar of salt the disobeying wife of Lot and finally ends at the departure of Lot and his two daughters. What is often not addressed either by theologians or fire brand preachers is the incest that took place afterwards which to me is the more problematic issue. Theologically it would be too uncomfortable to say it was about abuse of women and the sexual aspersions that the related family members seem to display coupled with the interpretation of the term “to know” in Hebrew as sex. Just as Abraham went into Egypt and speculated they would kill him so he effectively pimps his own wife Sarah they relations as they are seem to go to territories and cast sexual issues on others or are carrying out a permissive type of incest in Hebrew culture in the name of procreation and the continuation of the bloodline in the face of an absent matriarch in the household seeing she was turned into a pillar of salt.

The daughters are blamed for the incest albeit Lot was drunk but evidently not too drunk to get an erection and somehow make it happen; and the justification of homosexuality is easier to roll of the tongue from the pulpit. The church and theologians seem not to want to deal with the story in its entirety.

Booted man has left the church

He left the church body in March he said after some several months of pressure and continued ostracism and things came to a head when a meeting was called to discuss ‘change’ with strong hints of some sort of reparative therapy and prayer as the only way out. Lord knows my own experience in my twenties when I too like so many others tried the ‘pray the gay away’ strategy when in ignorance thought and was led to belief my homosexuality is a sin and a deviant behaviour; try as I might and pray as fervently as I did with even abstinence attempted the ‘gay’ did not go away; in fact it became even more pronounced. Urges and desires cannot be just driven away like that; if God did not want me to be a homosexual he would have made it so from the very beginning. Why would so many other animals display same gender sexual tendencies so much, are they guilty of some deviance too?

I like the young man went on fasting, asked for the Holy Spirit to (re)wash me or change me and it never came to fruition. In fact the opposite occurred where it was if the spirit spoke and said you are good as you are and there is no need to amend anything in that department. I would have loved to have asked or ask the young man to ask his elders the question of Luke 17:34 and its tenets where Jesus in a teaching on the rapture makes what appears to be a neutral non-discriminatory reference where it read (King James Version):

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Let me end here for now but I did this post just to show the madness coming from ignorant folks who in an information age refuse to accept the reality. If I may use the JCHS’s own biblical quote they end their newsletters with:

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.” Isaiah 9: 2 KJV

JCHS needs to take their own counsel and step out of darkness into the present realities. The church overall is missing the need to fulfil the word yet at the same time realise that other matters in society needs attention such as the loss of life. Where are these antigay groups apart from obligatory condemnation during child’s month on abuse of children, pastors in inappropriate acts with congregants and or children as well or the crime, murders and highly suspected political corruption?

Bearing in mind King James in whose name the most popular English translation of the Bible in 1610 is in was actually bisexual even in the face of a buggery law; pity the goody King would not have foreseen the work put in would be used as a destructive weapon hundreds of years later against LGBT people. Let us put to rest the silliness about “homosexual lifestyle” once and for all; as a phrase it is pure propaganda, a gossipy generalization and completely unworthy of a Christian who, following the counsel in Proverbs seeks understanding and insight into life and people. As Christians some will have to decide if we are going to partake of divisive “party spirit” that racked the church at Corinth or follow Christ as discerning attentive principles – to that still small voice and sharpen concerns for the ostracized instead of creating more strife.

Oh these modern day Pharisees, Saducees and Scribes who think their correctness is the be all and end all. Frankly envy of the apparent freedom of LGBT people could be called ‘freedom envy’ in my view. The role of freedom envy in the anti LGBT crusade is confirmed by the repeated and emphatic reference to “the homosexual lifestyle.” This is left a vague generality, as though it were something everyone already understands. The so called “homosexual lifestyle” is associated with a US view of homosexuality and dates back to the HIV/AIDS epidemic and stories of bath houses in places such as San Francisco; hence folks like Dr Wayne West of JCHS uses it as well to vectorise gays in his antigay advocacy or the deceptive “HIV is a gay disease ploy.” There is no such thing as a ‘homosexual lifestyle’ just as there is no such thing as “heterosexual lifestyle” heterosexual live on a “lifestyle” continuum just as homosexuals do. The continuum includes people in decades long monogamous relationships, people who live in social isolation, people who in into bar scenes etc people who move from relationship to relationship.

The gay Christian minded brethren has since moved on though disappointed that he cannot serve as he is used to but is searching for a worship space that can afford him that; I told him he may have a hard time finding one that is so embracing; I too have been finding it difficult to find such a space.

Finally as for the Levitical or Leviticusal or holiness codes (on homosexuality) bear in mind in the KJV the preamble is quite clear as it reads in part:

“The book of Leviticus accordingly is a manual for priests detailing the religious rules and procedures which the priests had to observe and enforce for the covenant nation of Israel. Its historical setting is the two years Israel spent encamped at Mount Sinai; it contains no further account of Israel’s journeys from Egypt to Canaan.”

It continues:

“The fact that Moses, the author of Leviticus devoted an entire book to priestly matters shows the importance that the religious observances were to have ever afterwards for the Israelites. Christians, under the terms of Christ’s new covenant do not regard these Levitical regulations as binding, but they do obey the same God, not in the letter of the law but in the spirit of Christ.”

Peace & tolerance

H

The Line in the sand for the PNP part 3: More uncertainty, who will win?

also see parts 1 and 2 

Observer cartoon

IMF updates HERE

Since my last sojourn summary as to the fortunes of the PNP and or JLP if they are chosen by the people in the now silly season leading up to the elections due by December 2016 we saw Raymond Pryce getting the boot while Redman and his supporters were seeing all orange with a win of 329 versus Pryce’s 127 votes and some homo-negative profiling reportedly of Mr Pryce happening with some denial from the Redman camp. Lisa Hanna still have the hits in her South East St Ann constituency as challenged by Lydia Richards; Lloyd B Smith under pain of exposure of very “earth shattering” information regarding his selection exercise and then getting the party to grant him a second run providing he kept his mouth shut only to bow out barring the threatening revelation (lotto scamming money buying influence) to force the PNP secretariat’s hand.

Persons seem to be jostling for the post Simpson Miller era and Lisa Hanna still has some love resonating from her Miss World title 22 years ago in 1993. She is likable and easy on the eye and has currency in politics hence Dr Dayton Campbell’s tirade against her pigeon-holing her ‘beauty’ and not brains. South East St Ann is a crucible in its own right I think in a safe seat. Will they settle in time for the polls or allow the JLP a quiet take over?

Lydia Richards also left herself out of the race in principle crying foul as the list she said was flawed while Lisa had no issue with Hanna winning with 468 votes while Richards only got 10 with very little open show of support as they stayed away but the death of young student Akela from the Prickly Pole Primary school only added more fuel to the whole scenario with outsiders looking in but barely affecting Hanna’s supporters. There are 1068 delegates eligible to vote. It screams volumes as her mandate has an asterix beside it Hanna claims she is humbled by the experience. Julian Robinson state minister of technology or STEM said the list was accurate and scoured. Miss Richards said in a serious letter to General Secretary Paul Burke essentially hinting it was stacked in a sense the list I mean, listing 10 issues including documents allegedly had forged signatures, with open hostility to persons who took a stand on corruption and who had been removed from the list and she has been treated with scant regard and that Miss Hanna is under investigation by the contractor general and may affect her place in the seat as MP. She also claimed several dead persons were not removed from the list even though she did not say whether she vetted the list prior to the race as is warranted. Comrades do not normally vote for JLP but stay away from the process; will that affect Miss Hanna on Election Day given less than 50% turnout (46%) in a safe seat race? Internal contests usually have far more turnout than that. Where were the other 54% of the delegates and why didn’t they turn up? South East St Ann is far from resolved in my view. A letter has since surfaced to the PNP secretariat that one Alfred Holiet was listed as a delegate and chair of a group in his travel company’s name ‘Full Moon’ yet as the man declared that he is not directly involved in politics he said his signature was forged; he has asked the affiliates to remove his name or legal action will be taken. That is just one of the many accusations questioning the cleanliness of the delegates list. Lest we forget and mentioned above Lloyd B Smith told us of alleged ‘skulduggery’ in his yes or no run off and the other numerous times we hear of battles over list.

The firing by the ministry of education or minister I should say of the chairman of the school board with the longstanding practice of politically aligned persons hired as such who said while she did not support the use or presence of children at that ill-fated demonstration/bus convoy at the school gate for that matter has since sought legal representation to challenge her dismissal. Attorney General Atkinson gets a tongue lashing on radio and threats of revenge voting for if he is sent back to them as a runner for MP with comrades literally saying they will vote JLP; a threat one would not have heard from persons in years gone by as it was usually the other way around.

Younger aspirants cry ageism while older members rebuke them claiming egotism and the airing of dirty linen in public with a major side swipe by none other than the eminent Reverend Garnet Roper chairman of the bus company and perceived PNP feeding tree the JUTC blasting the government for what he termed disgusting squabbles for scarce benefits and spoils a term made popular by his form talk show nemesis the late Wilmot Perkins, The PNP could do no wrong in Rev Roper’s eyes so is it that his comments are to be taken seriously or he is riding the wave of popular sentiments? Damion Crawford, Buchanan and a certain lawyer in St Thomas have had mixed fortunes with the latter dethroning the incumbent while Crawford’s utterances and attitudes forced a stalwart to resign in none other than Oliver Klue as referenced in part three of this series. Will those votes come in on election day for Crawford or Buchanan if they win the right to represent the constituents is left to be seen and now that a JLP’s Christopher Tufton west central St Catherine who was seen as a bright spark for politics overall and his maturity in the senate is sent packing even after all the troubles with him in his own party, what will be the quality in both houses for debate. Tufton lost by some 15 votes and he did not ask for a recount in the Elizabeth race and gave up his position as deputy leader in the JLP, he is the third most popular JLP person behind Holness and Shaw, instead of leveraging his popularity and supposed likability instead he choose a marginal seat and has been seen as having poor political judgement of which he is now paying the price. He is also seen as Prime Minister Material, former agriculture minister yet beaten by a counselor; it looks awful and he carries a tag of being a loser. In politics when one has that tag it is very difficult to shake; will he go off into the wilderness?

Lasmay from the Gleaner's take on the booting of Tufton & Hay Webster

Donors and funders for the JLP still like Tufton as said on the grapevine but will this affect the JLP campaign and funders are seen now as reluctant to write a cheque for the JLP and it may be perceived that the leadership does not want Tufton which since been denied by Andrew Holness backing him openly so much so it resulted in a clash with Andrew Wheatly from the neighbouring constituency. Can Tufton be parachuted in or does he have the stomach to continue after this rebuff by the locals on the ground?

Truth be told Raymond Pryce, Chris Tufton (seen as damaged goods), Ruel Reid (Jamaica College Principal who replaced Tufton prior to the court ruling on the undated resignation letter), Crawford (to a certain extent), Senator Camille Johnson JLP spokesperson on Education, Imani Duncan and even former senator Dennis Meadows brought some fresh air to the debates in both houses but with the hemorrhaging the already low quality parliament may only get lower and the kinds of draft legislation pending to include the four year review of the sexual offences bill (including the buggery law) what or whom are we left with to handle or make such important considerations?

Even if a buggery debate should come and the senate or parliament barring justice minister Mark ‘won’t cross the church on buggery’ Golding ends up with the folks above missing it may be all for naught as the maturity and the high quality review required is just not there in my eyes with the remaining persons especially an old foot such as the crass former justice minister now foreign affairs minister A. J Nicholson over whose signature in 2006 said the PNP was not into gay marriage via that stupid press release. Then his comments in 2014 warning that we should tread carefully on buggery obviously fearing political misfortune or backlash if seen to be supporting homosexuality overall. There can be no talk of any conscience vote this time around as that too may rile up already tense supporters in the diehard categories, bread and butter issues come first. We are not even sure if the sacrosanct cabinet has discussed the matter since the last time in any serious way although there have been closed sessions with ministers with foreign activists as well getting involved, will these meetings have a penetrative effect to legal reform given the fear f being sent into the wilderness by the electorate if the PNP is seen as supporting homosexuals?

Also bear in mind the tacit promise of a referendum on buggery as demanded by the religious right of the JLP. Party leader Andrew Holness has been walking through the raindrops on that issue. also see Jamaican Opposition Leader says he would allow homosexuals in his cabinet ...

also see:

Former Prime Minister PJ Patterson’s call for tolerance not genuine & sheer hypocrisy

Opposition Leader (Holness) sides with antigay groups on Referendum on The Buggery Law

Foreign Affairs Minister says Govt should be cautious on gay rights issues in Jamaica 2014

No Buggery Law Removal says Justice Minister, Gay Marriage parachuted in yet again

Did the talk of buggery turn persons off from the polls as well? 2012

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NO same sex marriage in 2009 charter of rights debate and see Feb 15, 2006 Gleaner article here:'Unholy union' - Charter could sanction gay marriage in Jamaica - Christian lawyers

as for the moral panic from Miss Shirley Richards a member of the LCC:

"Our concern," said Richards, "is that these words, as innocuously sounding as they are, can be interpreted to allow for adult consensual homosexual conduct in private," said Richards. She added that once homosexual acts are decriminalized, there would be no basis to bar to gay marriage. Mrs. Richards added that the concept of privacy also deals with abortion rights.

"If the government wants to decriminalize either homosexuality or abortion then it must do so squarely. Don't tell us that this will never happen under your watch and then allow for a few choice words in the charter which you know are capable of having this meaning," said Mrs. Richards.

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The Line in the Sand for the JLP Part 14 ...... but vote ☐ PNP ☐ JLP ☑ Legalize Buggery/Anal Sex

She said on October 20th 2009 - "Mr Speaker when we accepted the final report from the joint select committee that were looking at the bill we were completely satisfied with their recommendation of a provision to restrict marriage and like relationships to one man and one woman within Jamaica and that the provision should be specifically spelt out so that there could be no ambiguity ………. yes one man one woman (laughter in the house) and if you are Jamaican and go overseas the same applies ……….."

Obviously this gay marriage opposing argument was used to bolster the morality stance taken by the panicking Christian right who think that gays rights activists and gays themselves will somehow homosexualise the country. What nonsense? one is either gay, str8 bisexual and all other variants in between and if one so chooses one will act on the sexual urges or not where one feels to. Don't forget AsexualS as well who have no interest in sex but more on emotional connections.

Meanwhile as the three CCJ bills will be debated next month and the aftermath of the senate-gate issue then his isolation effectively at the run-off losing to his challenger will the PNP get the 1 vote from the opposition in the form of Tufton as he still sits in the senate that is required to make the bill go through thus cementing the Caribbean Court of Justice our final court.

Murdered gay party promoter, activist and vice president of the PNP’s western region who was alleged to be involved in lotto scamming aka Bebe has not gone unnoticed and has factored in many a discourse both on social media and traditional media and there is a perception that the party is wrapped up in bed with questionable folks both within and outside, then there are the questions of stewardship, accountability, the powerful being untouchable even when accused of shady deals etc; all being used by some to suggest the PNP must not be sent back into office.

Strangely the well dressed, well spoken and even relatively good performing MP on the national stage is not a guarantee of survival at the local level when it is the local level that has to ratify one prior to the ascension to the house by winning the seat as the representative as Sharon Hay Webster, Christopher Tufton of the JLP learned over the weekend at their run-offs which raises more doubts, questions and concerns from several quarters. Both lost badly in their races which started a debate on certain social media groups on rural MPs in particular are learning this the hard way as community folks are used to a more sociable MP with house visits for almost everything from dinners (sometimes uninvited) to wakes or nine nights observances when there is a passing of a district stalwart etc. Former MP and light bulb scandal survivor Kern “I am back” Spencer made mention of that feature of personalized representation in the same constituency where Mr Pryce was sent to replace him. The main question in all this uncertainty is who will take home the bacon on Election Day? and as persons wait with bated breath for the announcement which was not forthcoming at the PNP conference last Sunday at the National Arena as Mrs Simpson Miller seem to be more interested in dealing with her party base given all the in-fighting and squabbles but her hands off approach in tightening the reign on power and management of the party is being blamed for such and compared to her similar style nationally as Prime Minister by hardly granting interviews may go down as a marker against her; her opposition counterpart Andrew Holness despite media pigeon-holing especially from the Jamaica Observer is articulate, still young by political standards, uses social media well and has been speaking and sounding like a leader especially during the last three poverty to prosperity town hall meetings with much praise both at the venues and on social media but that internet war as launched by those under him in buying the portiasimpsonmiller domain name has not gone down well with some as clicking the link leads or re-directs persons to the JLP website. 

The younger articulate and savvy social media users from both parties (despite an older party chairman describing critics of his administration’s performance as the articulate minority) have been at each other’s throats with troll like commentary and actions with everything from photo-shopped pictures of candidates to dubious boards on Instagram and such. The PNP in the meantime has hit out at the JLP by claiming some sort of first passed the post with the usage of the present JLP tagline poverty to prosperity when it was used under the Bruce Golding administration then by PNP MP Dr Dayton Campbell; so in revenge the PNP of those associated have purchased the domain as well to supposedly stop the JLP from running with it.

The issues seems lost in the whole melee although the detailing of achievements by the JLP from their last time at the crease in the aforementioned poverty to prosperity townhall sessions for all intents and purposes they should have done in the 2011 campaign they seem to have learned from their arrogant mistake then. The PNP on the other hand is banking on the IMF tests passages; nine thus far and a staying the course mantra with very little else to add save except for more promises as outlined at the conference last week which did not resonate with the undecided it seems given the reactions via call in shows and articles online or in print. Jobs, Jobs, jobs as belted from the platform by Mrs Simpson Miller did not even get an applause at the conference which makes one wonder about the crowd at the conference itself and whether they were bused in under some bribe to fill spaces but the die-hards are not so on board. Then came the announcement with some fanfare by Peter Phillips Finance Minister of a call in show segment on Power106FM commencing this week where many see this as a side step:

1. to address the virtual silence or inability to engage the media and public by the Prime Minister and her hands off approach, lest we forget in Bruce Golding’s tenure he hosted a call in show on Thursdays drawing on his days as a talkshow host prior on HOT 102FM after departing the party he founded the National Democratic Movement, NDM then ascending to the PM after his return to the Jamaica Labour Party, JLP.

2. To use the show as part of a subtle campaign strategy as the public for the most part is not buying the hold strain yet passing IMF tests messaging

3. To try to allay fears of more taxes in the next budget after the public utterances from the IMF Jamaica representative that more needs to be done to met certain goals which may include job cuts in the public sector despite slight salary and benefits increase form some while nurses, police and warders and still up in arms alongside postal workers who feel they will be kicked to the curb as their snail mail services become obsolete without any real proactive thinking as elsewhere to transform such postal services to cafe, internet and express delivery type entities so as to make them viable and relevant in today’s world.

4. A diversion from the health sector so called audit when what is really was; was an internal review with damning results of equipment shortages, the issue of new mothers having gauzes sown up in them, reuse of old un-sterilized instruments and so on has sought to give the Health Minister and by extension the PNP a black eye and question marks hang over Dr Fenton Ferguson’s head as he is seen as the worse health minister and a non performer in the overall cadre of the cabinet with poor results; the retort minister chick-V has been stuck on him since his poor handling of the impact of the Chikungunya virus outbreak even after being warned.

5. A diversion from the unprecedented public in fighting for power in the PNP as pundits surmise Mrs Simpson Miller may not run again for another term and Mr Phillips who ran for the party leadership position against Mrs Simpson Miller back in the day is repackaging his image to ascend to the top though seemingly still not yet healed from that internal race and the awful things said by both candidates then and their supporters to include powerful ministers and back benchers.

Yesterday’s public meeting at Half Way Tree by the anti gay groups Lawyers’ Christian Fellowship LCF and the Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society, JCHS with Jamaica CAUSE raised the spectre of buggery again in the mix during the campaign, one waits to see if it will resonate nationally or as an item in the lead up or even an item for consideration for voters overall, die hards or undecided or disillusioned. Hardly any mention has been made of the buggery law reform push by advocates or the pressure from overseas as party squabbles except from JCHS et al as they essentially issued another one of their threat to government to suggest they won’t vote for them to return but I wonder if they are a powerful voting block as they never seemed to have factored in any of the studies by pollsters and political analysts. Their campaigns like last time is encouraging so called concerned persons on sexual rights to go out and vote predicated on the feared gay marriage imposition when sadly such groups even with some fair amount of being told by lawyers and journalists that our marriage act cannot be simply amended by a two thirds majority in the house or any amendment to the act without having to adjust the constitution as it is deeply entrenched in the constitution with strong protection they still persist with fear mongering and selectivity on issues while other more dangerous and egregious societal ills go for the most part unnoticed.

Betty Ann Blaine claims that there is a re-socialization of children with her usual alarmist crap and said parents must check books that they bring home but she conveniently left out the mainstream dancehall songs urging early sex oh but I forgot it is heterosexual sex not anal gay sex. She also went on via a telephone interview that atheism is now on the agenda and there are moves afoot to criminalize Christians, sigh sad that the whole issue is missed with still false dichotomies in my view as our struggle is not about whether or not god exists but the battle of the mind changing homo-negative feelings pinged to the buggery law and misnomers about what gay life is about. Some time ago in an audio entry I warned about this clouding of the issues and flawed focus but who listens or pays attention to what is really required.

They the paranoid anti gay voices seem to only have strength for homosexuals but are dumb on everything else; case in point the blood-letting in Hanover last week with some average three persons being murdered a day in a parish that never was on the radar so much for such atrocities. They have tried to repackage their message by claiming the meeting was on family life but we all know full well it was about the buggery law and feared gay marriage. There seems to be some snickering in a certain part of media and the public as when one listens to talk show hosts such as Joan Williams on Power 106Fm on Fridays sitting in for Cliff Hughes she comments cynically that it is not gays who are causing crime and other atrocities and that groups such as JCHS, LCF et al have misplaced priorities and agendas that are poorly informed. Strangely this is the same woman who also says (not sure if she has changed her mind) that gay murders are essentially lovers’ quarrels and not homophobic in causation with her now infamous 90% of such murders comment from the show.

I do not believe and some analysts have backed me up with their opinion that the buggery review or anything to do with homosexuality will factor in this election as bread and butter issues abound but a day in politics is a long one and as said before let us see if the protest/march in Half Way Tree will change the colour of the waters or will be ignored or over looked.

Finally for now with the representation of the people’s act calls for the discontinuing of campaigning 24 hours prior to the election date leader of government business and technology minister Phillip Paulwell says there is no need to amend the law to cover new media such Facebook; he may be right in one sense as it is hard to monitor such spaces but rules are rules or the law is the law; I can’t help but think such campaigns will go up right until the last minute as what happened last time around but not in large numbers.

Where oh where is the long held in limbo campaign finance bill and if it is to be debated in October will it be passed in time for this election cycle to avoid tainted money creeping in?

Until next time

Peace & tolerance

H

more readings and previous related entries:

Why The Obsession with Gays Shirley Richards?

Anti Gay Group Jamaica CAUSE told We're Not Into You! Gays No Threat To Straight Folk

Exporting Gay Hate from Jamaica? .....Al Miller speaks

Jamaica CAUSE issues Veiled threat to Govt to not Repeal The Buggery Law

Betty Ann Blaine Deliberately Conflates Same Gender Attraction & Child Abuse at Christian Anti Gay Mass Rally & in Public Advocacy

Reverend Al Miller continues his antigay advocacy while his integrity is severely damaged

More Overreaction to the Jamaicans for Justice Sex Education Course & Media Senationalism 

Betty Ann Blaine on Poverty, children and the Buggery Law .... and that awful confusion of homosexuality with paedophilia 2012

Hardened Positions by Religious Fanatics & Their LGBT Detractors Will Only Leave More Blood on the Floor

Anti Gay Voice & 'Child Rights' Advocate Betty-Ann Blaine Taken to Task on Public Advocacy

Why did CVCC & JFJ not Fund a Project/Home for Homeless LGBT Youth in New Kingston instead of the Children’s Home Fiasco that now obtains?

Justice Minister reiterates his personal position on the Buggery Law, Anal Intercourse, Consent & Privacy, government position

J-FLAG now advocating for decriminalisation of same-sex acts

Pastors Push Enumeration As Hedge Against Buggery Repeal (Gleaner July 1 2014) obviously the JFLAG change in the call to decriminalization has gone unheard deliberately or unnoticed. So much for pro-activity from our goodly advocates

The False Dichotomy of the religious right on the LGBT advocacy Godlessness

Espeut, West says “Homophobia” was invented to abuse Christians as hate speech

Betty Ann Blaine & foreign religious zealots continue their paranoia & misrepresentations of male homosexuality

Church claims future victimization if buggery is decriminalized in Jamaica

Spilling homosexual blood .... Observer Headline 29.11.09

Lesbians Do Have Morals 2009

More gay marriage paranoia & hijacking of the homosexual debate by fanatics 2014

Professor's Bain's Testimony Threatened Foreign Funding (Gleaner letter)

Lessons to learn from The Professor Bain Matter?

Anti Gay Voice & 'Child Rights' Advocate Betty-Ann Blaine Taken to Task on Public Advocacy

Ian Boyne: Bain exercised terribly poor strategic judgement

The Deliberate Misuse of the “Sexual Grooming” Term by Antigay Fanatics to Promote Their Hysteria

Anti gay religious voices where are they? .... Pastor charged with sexual assault

There goes gay marriage paranoia again

Healthy Coalition nonsense

'UWI had no choice but to dismiss Prof Bain' says Professor Rosemarie Bell Antoine (OAS Rapporteur)

Pro-Bain Protesters To Meet With UWI Today

Buggery the only thing that makes church butts sore?

Betty Ann Blaine on Poverty, children and the Buggery Law .... and that awful confusion of homosexuality with paedophilia

Blaine will be her own victim (Observer Letter 11.08.10)

Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society continues its “HIV is a gay disease” campaign with more deception added

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More gay marriage paranoia from anti gay Jamaican groups

I agonized whether I should waste time granting valuable blog space for my valued readers who are little savvier than the average audience and previous blog posts have shown the lunacy from anti gay groups. Jamaica CAUSE and their predecessor Lawyers’ Christian Fellowship, LCF have become exceedingly efficient at exacerbating fear and hatred out there capitalizing on the ignorance of the public while sadly gaining traction in doing so and playing the political card in the process.

The latest salvo come on the backdrop of that matter in the US of a clerk refusing to issue gay marriage licenses despite a Supreme Court ruling for all fifty odd states in the US while ignoring the fact she is a public servant paid by tax payers some of whom will benefit from the change in the law and the attendant state benefits affording to such couples prior.

The planned march by the groups for supposed opposition to gay marriage is laughable at least and utter nonsense and asinine at best as other issues such as the awful crime wave, murder rates going through the roof, abuse of children, rape figures usually high yet such groups find strength for gays along the lines of the tyranny of the majority. The 10,000 man march in Montego Bay recently by some church groups was to have highlighted the crime issue especially lotto scamming of which MSM have even suffered from it especially leading to homelessness and homophobic matters as well, chief among them a home invasion in a middle class housing area by a rival lotto scam group where the intended targets deliberately hire young men who are gay and articulate as it is said they get better results than none gay males in the illegal activity. The very week of the march then had three separate shootings and the latest only yesterday morning of three men for alleged lotto scamming rivalry as well as police crackdown on the scourge avenues for the practice become less so infighting rises.

What is even more interesting is the ever changing gold posts for some of the groups as they launch their campaigns for example Helen Coley Nicholson three days ago spoke to Nationwide Radio and also via TBC radio that the planned march is for to respond to the clerk issue and gay marriage and the push by LGBTQIP etc and a clear anti hate promoting agenda yet yesterday on Nationwide as interviewed by Brooks and Fitzhenly Dr Wayne West and Philipa Davies placed a spin on the whole affair when asked by the hosts as to the real reason for the march for Sunday September 28 as a pro-family and other national so called atrocities when the Helen Coley message cleared stated otherwise. It would seem that the Jamaica CAUSE folks are losing some traction and credibility as more and more it is clear to everyone they are selective and only have strength for LGBTQI people. Dr Wayne West went as far as to declare transgender folk as mentally ill.

Those other country priorities are of no import to Jamaica CAUSE et al it seems and given the election silly season obviously piggy backing on the US anti gay Christian clerk matter to gain traction possibly for a conservatism agenda pegged to the Jamaica Labour Party and the agitated referendum on buggery. What about the perceived corruption in government or at the party level; case in point the cry from Lloyd B Smith local government trace and his threat of sorts to his PNP hierarchy of skulduggery yet after the party offered a re-run of the race his threats seem to have disappeared showing the hypocrisy on all fronts; righteous indignation when convenient but the plebeians can go to hell.

It would seem as if the religious right groups prefer the status quo to continue as marriage defined as a union between a man and woman but ends up in some instances divorces as strangers are actually put together as no real romantic time and sexual play is allowed in other words no sex before marriage and the continued hiding of same gender attracted folk in the church as they struggle with identity, acceptance and fear or guilt. The usual argument postured by these anti gay voices is that gay marriage with destroy the family has been proven as nonsense borne out by the breakdown of said family unit without the rights and privileges afforded to gay couples. Just a cursory look at so called family life marriage is already destroyed by those who now have such rights, absentee fathers, fake marriage even in church but the parties aren’t actually in love, naive couples entering the fray. 

The so called straight without the hate tagline is so ridiculous to me.

Then comes the paranoia of church persecution due to disagreement with pro gay issues but if the madness such as that clerk persists and LGBT people feeling hurt by such actions while asking for tolerance in public advocacy then it is a recipe for further hardened positions and the true essence of our struggle is missed as smoke screens divert the eyes from the ball. I warned about such clouding of the issues some time ago in an audio post as well but here we have arrived at the very place I feared, then articles supporting atheism or question God’s existence while smacking gay or LGBTQ Christians in the face comes from folks like Michael Abrahams while supportive of the causes only seeks to mire the issues in the final analysis. The step-n-fetch-it approach by groups such as JFLAG has only added more fuel to the fire by their slow response to the issues when the LCF prior to Jamaica CAUSE’s formation and their rather daft stance on gay marriage from way back when yet it had to get to this stage and still no serious response from the group especially to categorically state that there has been no official position on the matter from them or any other group until present day; individual wishes via articles and discussion is not an official position and given that we cannot even get passed just basic understanding, public awareness on sexual orientation and settling misnomers about homosexuality.

The Gleaner carried this as well:

An alleged threat to family life in addition to recent developments in the United States regarding the sanctioning of same-sex marriage across that country are some of the concerns that have prompted what is expected to be a massive rally hosted by the Church in Half-Way Tree, St Andrew, later this month.

Hundreds of well-known church leaders closed the doors of their sanctuaries to venture out with their membership in Half-Way Tree Square in June of last year to flex their collective muscles, as debate raged over a possible repeal of the buggery law.

Dr Stevenson Samuels, chairman of Jamaica CAUSE, the group spearheading the rally, told a press conference yesterday that the rally would not be an attack on the lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans-gender (LGBT) community, but a call to save the nation from what he described as "predicted negative consequences".

"We are suffering from social, spiritual and economic effects of faulty family life and there is much to be done to address oppression and injustice, but despite our economic, political and social challenges, we will not accept new definitions of marriage and family that defy nature and design and will lead the country towards predictable negative outcomes," Samuels declared.

"We reject all forms of pressure or coercion, internal or external. We stand opposed to all policies that harm marriage, family and children, and as such, urge our leaders to protect the Jamaican family which is already gravely threatened," he continued.

WIDE SUPPORT

He also indicated that groups from several Caribbean countries have confirmed their attendance, including from Barbados, St Vincent and the Grenadines, and Guyana.

Helene Coley Nicholson, president of the Lawyers' Christian Fellowship, who also addressed the gathering, noted that she was confident that with the support of Jamaican citizens, the country can be saved from decay of the morals of society.

"The case of Kim Davis puts into sharp focus some of the consequences of the unfolding LGBT agenda. Her imprisonment is the direct consequence of the overthrowing of laws by the US Supreme Court which legalised same-sex marriage in all 50 states in June this year," Coley Nicholson said.

POLITICAL AND LEGAL BATTLES

"That ruling has unleashed political and legal battles over concepts of family, religious liberty and freedom of conscience as well as the Jamaican Constitution."

Kim Davis, a Rowan County clerk in the United States, was sent to jail for refusing to issue licences to gay couples earlier this month.

"As the battle rages, what happened to Kim Davis has sent a signal not just to the centres in the US but to those in other countries, including Jamaica, that are within the sphere of the American influence," Coley Nicholson said.

"Intense pressure has been and is being put on Jamaica by the US and other countries to overturn our buggery laws and enact legislation to offer special rights to LGBT persons."

She added: "We acknowledge that more work needs to be done. However, we are people of faith and we will be guided by that. We believe that Jamaica is going to be a place of refuge and we will continue to take a stand and encourage others to stand with us."

ENDS

Then comes one of their own voices in trouble with the law just the same yet they associate with him in no other than the great Reverend Al Miller - The trial of Kingston pastor Reverend Al Miller is now scheduled to resume on November 4.

Miller's bail has been extended until that time.

When he appeared in the Corporate Area Magistrate's Court today his attorneys asked the court for more time.

Miller’s defence team told the court that they recently received the transcript of the testimony of former police commissioner Owen Ellington at the West Kingston Commission of Enquiry.

The lawyers said they needed more time to review the document.

Miller is being tried for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

He was charged after then wanted man Christopher 'Dudus' Coke was found in a car he was driving on June 22, 2010

Coke was wanted on an extradition warrant at the time he was captured along Mandela Highway in St Catherine, in a sport utility vehicle that was being driven by Miller.

Gay marriage rights and recognition will not take away from rights already enjoyed by those who the law covers and the aforementioned downlow or hiding in the church to conceal guilt has not been properly ventilated especially owing to the fact that some of the voices in the religious anti gay penny section have been burnt by such causes to end their own marriages hence the bitterness and advocacy from them in such groups.

Finally I am still in agreement with this clip below from the author of 'Dance With a Difference' by Shirley Fletcher:

Peace and tolerance

H

also see:

Why The Obsession with Gays Shirley Richards?

Anti Gay Group Jamaica CAUSE told We're Not Into You! Gays No Threat To Straight Folk

Exporting Gay Hate from Jamaica? .....Al Miller speaks

Jamaica CAUSE issues Veiled threat to Govt to not Repeal The Buggery Law

Betty Ann Blaine Deliberately Conflates Same Gender Attraction & Child Abuse at Christian Anti Gay Mass Rally & in Public Advocacy

Reverend Al Miller continues his antigay advocacy while his integrity is severely damaged

More Overreaction to the Jamaicans for Justice Sex Education Course & Media Senationalism

Betty Ann Blaine on Poverty, children and the Buggery Law .... and that awful confusion of homosexuality with paedophilia 2012

Hardened Positions by Religious Fanatics & Their LGBT Detractors Will Only Leave More Blood on the Floor

Anti Gay Voice & 'Child Rights' Advocate Betty-Ann Blaine Taken to Task on Public Advocacy

Why did CVCC & JFJ not Fund a Project/Home for Homeless LGBT Youth in New Kingston instead of the Children’s Home Fiasco that now obtains?

Justice Minister reiterates his personal position on the Buggery Law, Anal Intercourse, Consent & Privacy, government position

J-FLAG now advocating for decriminalisation of same-sex acts

Pastors Push Enumeration As Hedge Against Buggery Repeal (Gleaner July 1 2014) obviously the JFLAG change in the call to decriminalization has gone unheard deliberately or unnoticed. So much for pro-activity from our goodly advocates

The False Dichotomy of the religious right on the LGBT advocacy Godlessness

Espeut, West says “Homophobia” was invented to abuse Christians as hate speech

Betty Ann Blaine & foreign religious zealots continue their paranoia & misrepresentations of male homosexuality

Church claims future victimization if buggery is decriminalized in Jamaica

Spilling homosexual blood .... Observer Headline 29.11.09

Lesbians Do Have Morals 2009

More gay marriage paranoia & hijacking of the homosexual debate by fanatics 2014

Professor's Bain's Testimony Threatened Foreign Funding (Gleaner letter)

Lessons to learn from The Professor Bain Matter?

Anti Gay Voice & 'Child Rights' Advocate Betty-Ann Blaine Taken to Task on Public Advocacy

Ian Boyne: Bain exercised terribly poor strategic judgement

The Deliberate Misuse of the “Sexual Grooming” Term by Antigay Fanatics to Promote Their Hysteria

Anti gay religious voices where are they? .... Pastor charged with sexual assault

There goes gay marriage paranoia again

Healthy Coalition nonsense

'UWI had no choice but to dismiss Prof Bain' says Professor Rosemarie Bell Antoine (OAS Rapporteur)

Pro-Bain Protesters To Meet With UWI Today

Buggery the only thing that makes church butts sore?

Betty Ann Blaine on Poverty, children and the Buggery Law .... and that awful confusion of homosexuality with paedophilia

Blaine will be her own victim (Observer Letter 11.08.10)

Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society continues its “HIV is a gay disease” campaign with more deception added

What goes on in the minds of the overly religious?

BETTY ANN BLAINE’S ARRANT NONSENSE REQUEST OF PETER KING TAPES

THAT WON’T STOP AIDS, BETTY ANN SAYS GAY LAWYER

BUY NO RINGS, YOU WON’T WED; RELIGIOUS FEAR-MONGERING ON GAY MARRIAGE & THE BUGGERY LAW CONTINUES

The Hypocrisy of Jamaican Anti Gay Groups & Selective Actions of Societal Ills