Problem is they make the rest of the church look bad hence persons just blast the church collectively.
Blog posts by chief cook and bottle washer Dr Wayne West supposedly in the name of morality and God centered beliefs are disturbing to say the least and reflects the kid of mind we are dealing with here: PM rejects moral nihilism and sexual anarchy : No to LGBTTTIQ….PZism ! No to fisting, felching, farming, scat, chariot racing etc ! as if to suggest demand law change willl also allow more far out practices than just anal sex but it also shows his ignorance on sexual orientation, a challenge the lobby has nationally as well as fear also causes our education systems over many years to address sex and sexuality. Remember the HFLE fiasco anyone?
Problem is that the twinning of atheism, secularism with law change for decriminalization and or repeal of old laws such as buggery has clouded the aims of the struggle originally and as all kinds of unqualified and inexperienced self appointed advocates come forth not understanding strategy and too headstrong those costly errors have derailed and indeed paralysed some of the incremental gains.
First the letter then my follow up two cents:
Dear Editor,
After reading comments by the Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society (JCHS) all over the media, I am forced to respond to what is obviously mass propaganda and hysteria. We never hear of this group when gruesome child abuse cases are reported, but mention the word 'gay' and everyone jumps. Who are they to attempt to define the rights of any human being based on their sexuality?
These people like to rebuke the suggestion that Jamaica is indeed homophobic and they commend PM Simpson Miller for her defiant response to gay activists who heckled and interrupted her recent speech in New York on what is still a very serious issue.
JCHS suggests that gays tell lies on Jamaica and attempts to embarrass the PM who said, "No one ever hears the Government of Jamaica beating up gays". This was a simplistic response, if not absurd. What should be said is that the Government has not done enough to denounce gay discrimination and related hate crimes, they are silent on these issues and refuse to proceed with the promise made to review the antiquated buggery law which criminalises gay acts between consenting adults. This law feeds into a culture of hate and prejudice which is mostly perpetuated by the uneducated and uninformed.
Dear Editor,
After reading comments by the Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society (JCHS) all over the media, I am forced to respond to what is obviously mass propaganda and hysteria. We never hear of this group when gruesome child abuse cases are reported, but mention the word 'gay' and everyone jumps. Who are they to attempt to define the rights of any human being based on their sexuality?
These people like to rebuke the suggestion that Jamaica is indeed homophobic and they commend PM Simpson Miller for her defiant response to gay activists who heckled and interrupted her recent speech in New York on what is still a very serious issue.
JCHS suggests that gays tell lies on Jamaica and attempts to embarrass the PM who said, "No one ever hears the Government of Jamaica beating up gays". This was a simplistic response, if not absurd. What should be said is that the Government has not done enough to denounce gay discrimination and related hate crimes, they are silent on these issues and refuse to proceed with the promise made to review the antiquated buggery law which criminalises gay acts between consenting adults. This law feeds into a culture of hate and prejudice which is mostly perpetuated by the uneducated and uninformed.
more from the PM HERE on that matter and PM scolds gay-rights protesters in New York ...
If Jamaica is not homophobic, as some suggest, why did former PM Bruce Golding tell the BBC that gays cannot serve in his Cabinet? And why did Opposition Leader Andrew Holness avoid answering the question during the last electoral debate? Have they forgotten about the cross-dressing teen, Dwayne Jones, who was viciously murdered by a mob? J-FLAG reports hundreds of incidents in recent years. We also see and hear of incidents reported on the news. Isn't this homophobia? A government must be custodian for its citizens and cannot turn a blind eye to discrimination. Any government that creates, endorses and enforces laws which criminalise gay acts between consenting adults in privacy is not serious about defending human rights. This is not an issue to be put to the people, it's an issue to teach the people.
So, yes, Obama is very likely to raise human rights concerns with PM Simpson Miller, as he does everywhere he goes. She promised to review the buggery laws. No other PM to my knowledge has ever done this. Yes, we agree some progress has been made, but if the PM now believes Jamaica is no longer homophobic and that gays are spreading lies, I urge her not to delay any further the buggery law review which she promised years ago. And she can still do so defiantly with "the blood of Nanny of the Maroons and the spirit of Marcus Mosiah Garvey", as both were great heroes who fought defiantly to defend human rights.
Pete Delisser
pdelisser1988@yahoo.com.
If Jamaica is not homophobic, as some suggest, why did former PM Bruce Golding tell the BBC that gays cannot serve in his Cabinet? And why did Opposition Leader Andrew Holness avoid answering the question during the last electoral debate? Have they forgotten about the cross-dressing teen, Dwayne Jones, who was viciously murdered by a mob? J-FLAG reports hundreds of incidents in recent years. We also see and hear of incidents reported on the news. Isn't this homophobia? A government must be custodian for its citizens and cannot turn a blind eye to discrimination. Any government that creates, endorses and enforces laws which criminalise gay acts between consenting adults in privacy is not serious about defending human rights. This is not an issue to be put to the people, it's an issue to teach the people.
So, yes, Obama is very likely to raise human rights concerns with PM Simpson Miller, as he does everywhere he goes. She promised to review the buggery laws. No other PM to my knowledge has ever done this. Yes, we agree some progress has been made, but if the PM now believes Jamaica is no longer homophobic and that gays are spreading lies, I urge her not to delay any further the buggery law review which she promised years ago. And she can still do so defiantly with "the blood of Nanny of the Maroons and the spirit of Marcus Mosiah Garvey", as both were great heroes who fought defiantly to defend human rights.
Pete Delisser
pdelisser1988@yahoo.com.
ENDS
Problem is though the letter writer misses the boat when it comes to who is actually liable for buggery when proven as the perpetrator or penetrator is the one who is charged whether he penetrated anally (gay sex or not) or with a device (also maybe reduced to grievous sexual assault or gross indecency) not the passive partner or the recipient of such penile entry (although both are tested by a doctor on behalf of the arresting officer(s) or the state.
Let me remind persons of the dancehall DJ Zebra's case for example where he raped a female and also buggered her because the matter was tried at the home circuit court he got the full brunt of the sentences rape and buggery (in the RM the accused when found guilty can get up to ten years) see: DJ Zebra gets 30 years for rape
podcast related to the clouding of the struggle in twinning atheism and LGBT rights:
Emotional outburst and improperly planned protests have to go and more properly thought through strategies and engagement employed.
also see:
JCSC Highlights Danger Of Debate About Buggery may lead to strifeOh really! ............ Penile/anal penetration is NOT Sex Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society?
Jamaican Pastor says the LGBT issue is not about rights but acceptance of lifestyle
The False Dichotomy of the religious right on the LGBT advocacy Godlessness
Listen to Wayne West of the Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society, JCHS evade every direct question about whether the position he is trumpeting is not in fact stirring up prejudices and may lead to mob violence.
Despicable.
Church claims future victimization if buggery is decriminalized in Jamaica
Jamaica Coalition for a Healthy Society continues its “HIV is a gay disease” campaign with more deception added
Gleaner letter June 21 2014: Bain was Biased
Buggery the only thing that makes church butts sore?
JAMAICA COALITION FOR A HEALTHY SOCIETY, JCHS CONTINUED CONFUSION OF PAEDOPHILIA & CONSENTING HOMOSEXUALITY.
BUY NO RINGS, YOU WON’T WED; RELIGIOUS FEAR-MONGERING ON GAY MARRIAGE & THE BUGGERY LAW CONTINUES
LAWYERS’ CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP’S CONTINUED FEAR MONGERING ON CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION POST BUGGERY LAW AMENDMENT & RE-SOCIALIZATION
THE USE OF JAMAICAN DIALECT TO FURTHER STIGMATISE HOMOSEXUALS IN THE NEW PATOIS BIBLE
URGENT NEED TO DISCUSS SEX & SEXUALITY NATIONALLY PART 2
BETTY ANN BLAINE’S ARRANT NONSENSE REQUEST OF PETER KING TAPES
CHURCH STANDS RESOLUTE AGAINST BUGGERY BACKERS SAYS AL MILLER ………… LOVE MARCH MOVEMENT LACKS MORAL COMPASS SAYS LGBT VOICE
LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE …….. PARLIAMENT URGED TO PUT BUGGERY LAW ISSUE TO A REFERENDUM
BETTY ANN BLAINE ON ……………… SOLD OUT FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER?
GOVERNMENT COMMITS TO STOMP OUT HIV/AIDS STIGMA … WE HOPE IT’S NOT JUST PAPER LEFT FOR FILING (
Queen Ifrica's "Freedom of Speech" & advocacy found wanting
BUY NO RINGS, YOU WON’T WED; RELIGIOUS FEAR-MONGERING ON GAY MARRIAGE & THE BUGGERY LAW CONTINUES
LAWYERS’ CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP’S CONTINUED FEAR MONGERING ON CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION POST BUGGERY LAW AMENDMENT & RE-SOCIALIZATION
THE USE OF JAMAICAN DIALECT TO FURTHER STIGMATISE HOMOSEXUALS IN THE NEW PATOIS BIBLE
URGENT NEED TO DISCUSS SEX & SEXUALITY NATIONALLY PART 2
BETTY ANN BLAINE’S ARRANT NONSENSE REQUEST OF PETER KING TAPES
CHURCH STANDS RESOLUTE AGAINST BUGGERY BACKERS SAYS AL MILLER ………… LOVE MARCH MOVEMENT LACKS MORAL COMPASS SAYS LGBT VOICE
LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE …….. PARLIAMENT URGED TO PUT BUGGERY LAW ISSUE TO A REFERENDUM
BETTY ANN BLAINE ON ……………… SOLD OUT FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER?
GOVERNMENT COMMITS TO STOMP OUT HIV/AIDS STIGMA … WE HOPE IT’S NOT JUST PAPER LEFT FOR FILING (
Queen Ifrica's "Freedom of Speech" & advocacy found wanting
and
Betty Ann Blaine & foreign religious zealots continue their paranoia & misrepresentations of male homosexuality
My answer to Peter Espeut's rubbish on Homophobia Exposed from December 2012
May 27, 2013
The Gleaner carried:
More gay marriage paranoia & hijacking of the homosexual debate by fanatics
The Gleaner carried:
'We're Not Crazy' - Local Lobby Defends Anti-Homosexuality Views; Rejects 'Homophobic' Label
Continued misconceptions of adult homosexuals being paedophiles
PNP 2006, No plans to Legalise Same Sex Union (FLASHBACK)
No Same Sex Marriage says Prime Minister in Charter of Rights Bill Debate (Bruce Golding)
Church angry, gays happy PNP on collision course with Christians ………………. but some of us are not impressed
President of the Senate warns against discrimination based on language, sexual orientation
Mark Wignall ....... Gay Lobby will wait in vain
NOT READY FOR GAYS ……. GAY MARRIAGE SMOKE SCREEN REINTRODUCED ……………. POLITICAL DODGING 2011
BUGGERY LAW BACKLASH – BLAIR: THE CHURCH HAS BEEN SLEEPING – BLAIR WARNS REVIEW COULD LEAD TO SAME-SEX MARRIAGES 2011
Why The Obsession with Gays Shirley Richards?
'We Have The Numbers' - Anti-Homosexuality group claims
and the post for Sexual Assault Awareness Month prior to this: Disgusting, why are so many parents pimping their children?
I don't think I need to add more but I hope the point has been made
Sad we have a long way to go it seems in reaching hearts and minds who we thought were more sensible.
Peace and tolerance
H
Sad we have a long way to go it seems in reaching hearts and minds who we thought were more sensible.
Peace and tolerance
H
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